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republicans have word they may be losing ground on the tax hike debate. the latest poll shows the majority of voters actually trust the president and democrats on the issue. reporting live on capitol hill, i'm danielle lee, news4. >>> the santanas live in the falls church area in fairfax county. they did not expect to get a visit from the president just because they shared their story. julie carey sat down with them and asked what it's like now to be in the middle of this fight over the fiscal cliff. . >> reporter: the house you see behind me isn't exactly where tiffany santana and her extended family live. their door is around back. it leads to the basement apartment they rent for $2,000 a month. and today they became the face of middle class america. step through the door of the santana household and it's clear to see president barack obama was a presence here even before his visit today. the family had these life size cutouts of the president and first lady made for a neighborhood campaign event. mr. obama's photo sits among family shots and his book i
republicans have word they may be losing ground on the tax hike debate. the latest poll shows the majority of voters actually trust the president and democrats on the issue. reporting live on capitol hill, i'm danielle lee, news4. >>> the santanas live in the falls church area in fairfax county. they did not expect to get a visit from the president just because they shared their story. julie carey sat down with them and asked what it's like now to be in the middle of this fight over...
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. >> reporter: top economists came to capitol hill thursday to talk about the impact of tax increases and government spending cuts on the middle class. >> a couple thousand dollars means a couple months rent. for this family. >> reporter: the white house has made clear, the country could go over the cliff if republicans refuse to raise taxes on the top 2% of american earners. >> for them to be burdened, unnecessarily because democrats and republicans aren't coming together to solve this problem, gives you a sense of the costs involved in very personal terms. >> reporter: republican leaders say they will close loopholes and eliminate tax breaks to raise money. but insist that bush-era tax cuts must be extended for all americans. >> reporter: the standoff and the country's skyrocketing debt, concerns ryan shenecki. ♪ [ music ] ♪ so much so, that he's the guy in the can suit, dancing gang thisnam style with the cochair, former senator, allen simpson. his group, the can kicks back, is working to get young people involved in fixing the debt crisis. >> we're trying to get our generation
. >> reporter: top economists came to capitol hill thursday to talk about the impact of tax increases and government spending cuts on the middle class. >> a couple thousand dollars means a couple months rent. for this family. >> reporter: the white house has made clear, the country could go over the cliff if republicans refuse to raise taxes on the top 2% of american earners. >> for them to be burdened, unnecessarily because democrats and republicans aren't coming...
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. >> president obama was making case in virginia to and the the your tax cuts for wealthiest americans. with a falls church afternoon. we'll have the latest capitol hill over could happen should we go over the fiscal cliff. have a new report that moving into the s moving out who i and why. see you in a few minutes. >> tonight, we will find out happened to the president's scandal. cliffhanger left is wondering shot -- as the vice president takes control. e must all join hands and pray for our president. as you about your heads, rest assured i am in the white house charge of the situation. >> see what happens on the all "scandal." lookeds take another it to see what is happening with the national christmas tree lighting. neil patrick harris is the host this year. waiting on the of the first family. they should be there within the next few minutes. come out and flipped switch. >> always a beautiful sight. >> this will be interesting they change to the for the first time. we will see what that looks like. >> let's check in on however is feeling. >> getting into the holiday with the cold we
. >> president obama was making case in virginia to and the the your tax cuts for wealthiest americans. with a falls church afternoon. we'll have the latest capitol hill over could happen should we go over the fiscal cliff. have a new report that moving into the s moving out who i and why. see you in a few minutes. >> tonight, we will find out happened to the president's scandal. cliffhanger left is wondering shot -- as the vice president takes control. e must all join hands and...
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the tax cuts should be extended for all americans. danielle nottingham reports for wjz. it comes as president obama meets with a family who would be impacted if the country goes over the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: lawmakers are getting an earful about why they need to avoid the so- called fiscal cliff. >> you gotta nail this down. uncertainty is killing us. >> reporter: top comiftds -- economists came to capitol hill thursday to talk about the impact of tax increases ask government spending cuts on the middle class. >> a couple thousand dollars means a couple months rent for this family. >> reporter: the white house has made clear, the country could go or the cliff -- over the cliff, if republicans refuse to raise taxes on the top 2% of american earners. >> for them to be burdened, unnecessarily, because democrats and republicans aren't coming together to solve this problem, gives you a sense of the costs involved in very personal terms. >> reporter: republican leaders say they will close loopholes and eliminate tax breaks to raise money but insist that bush-era tax cuts
the tax cuts should be extended for all americans. danielle nottingham reports for wjz. it comes as president obama meets with a family who would be impacted if the country goes over the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: lawmakers are getting an earful about why they need to avoid the so- called fiscal cliff. >> you gotta nail this down. uncertainty is killing us. >> reporter: top comiftds -- economists came to capitol hill thursday to talk about the impact of tax increases ask...
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republicans are sticking to their position that tax cuts should be extended for all americans. danielle nottingham reports for wjz from washington. >>> lawmakers are getting an earful about why they need to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. >> you have to nail this down. uncertainty is killing us. >> reporter: top economists talked about the impact of tax increases and government spending cuts on the middle class. >> a couple thousand dollars, means a couple months rent for this family. >> reporter: the white house has made clear the country could go over the cliff, if republicans refused to raise taxes on the top 2% of american earners. >> for them to be burdened, unnecessarily, because democrats and republicans aren't coming together to solve this problem, gives you a sense of the costs involved in very personal terms. >> reporter: republican leaders say they will close loopholes loopholes and eliminate tax breaks to raise money. but insist that bush-era tax cuts must be extended for all americans. >> reporter: the standoff and the country's skyrocketing debt, concerns ryan s
republicans are sticking to their position that tax cuts should be extended for all americans. danielle nottingham reports for wjz from washington. >>> lawmakers are getting an earful about why they need to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. >> you have to nail this down. uncertainty is killing us. >> reporter: top economists talked about the impact of tax increases and government spending cuts on the middle class. >> a couple thousand dollars, means a couple months...
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it has been some progress on the tax cut side in terms of tax reform that could raise a type of revenue that we are going to need, but as far as i can see, there has been no meaningful discussion at all on the spending side and as many americans have to balance the wrong budget knows, if you have a deficit that means you have to bring in more rate comment and spend less. melissa: all we're ever talking about is raising taxes and nobody is talking about what we need to cut. the first thing you would do is stop spending. let's tighten our belts. regardless though you really think it is too late? i think they can come up with some solution that is held together with chicken wire and bubblegum and scotch tape and this little crummy thing that will keep us from going over the cliff pushing the whole problem off into the future. speak i think you have to treat two separate issues separately. one is avoiding the cliff, and i think the way to do that is to reach a short-term agreement on tax cut extensions. relatively optimistic they can get a long-term budget agreement done next year, but don'
it has been some progress on the tax cut side in terms of tax reform that could raise a type of revenue that we are going to need, but as far as i can see, there has been no meaningful discussion at all on the spending side and as many americans have to balance the wrong budget knows, if you have a deficit that means you have to bring in more rate comment and spend less. melissa: all we're ever talking about is raising taxes and nobody is talking about what we need to cut. the first thing you...
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tax. today this tax -- also known as the estate tax -- is set up at a top rate of 35%, with an exception for the first $5.1 million of the estate's value. well, those are the levels that congress set and the president agreed to in 2010. a republican house of representatives, democrat senate, as well as the president -- democrat in the white house. 2010. those are th levels are now setp dramatically to a top rate of 55% with an compe exemption fort the first $1 million. $1 million as you understands like a lot of money -- $1 million sounds like a lot of money until you start looking at family farms. farmers have a lot of assets such as land, buildings and livestock. those things are worth a lot of money for purposes of calculating the value of someone's estate. but they aren't liquid assets. you can't just spend a tractor. once a mom or dad dies in the farm family, the i.r.s. wants the death tax paid within nine months. the taxes collected -- though it is calculated on the big valuations fo
tax. today this tax -- also known as the estate tax -- is set up at a top rate of 35%, with an exception for the first $5.1 million of the estate's value. well, those are the levels that congress set and the president agreed to in 2010. a republican house of representatives, democrat senate, as well as the president -- democrat in the white house. 2010. those are th levels are now setp dramatically to a top rate of 55% with an compe exemption fort the first $1 million. $1 million as you...
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geiger says the problem is too big to be solved without raising tax rates on the wealthy. he drew a fierce response from republicans saying that the statement was stunning and irresponsible. egest republic golegest republis ordered protesters supporting and opposing president mohammed morsi to leave the area around the presidential palace that has been the site of fierce clashes. the guard gave broad protesters on both sides time to clear out. >> the death toll from the typhoon hit the southern philippines has climbed to 350 people today. it hit hardest in the southern philippines where entire families were washed away. and the four injured people are still missing. nato has called on north korea to cancel its plans for a second rocket launch. ambassador stated yesterday that it wants would violate u.n. resolutions and could be is that the stabilize the korean peninsula. russia and china are urging north korea to not proceed with the planned rocket launchers. >> it is now 948 and changes are coming to an said gramm and twitter. our mt. tam cam is stop and with great skies.
geiger says the problem is too big to be solved without raising tax rates on the wealthy. he drew a fierce response from republicans saying that the statement was stunning and irresponsible. egest republic golegest republis ordered protesters supporting and opposing president mohammed morsi to leave the area around the presidential palace that has been the site of fierce clashes. the guard gave broad protesters on both sides time to clear out. >> the death toll from the typhoon hit the...
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yes, i raise tax rates on the rich or no will not. >> you don't raise tax rates which. stuart: you would love no. and started to push like this. you wouldn't know. >> in not addressing the problem stuart: even though it wishes us over the cliff. >> i would vote no because it does not address the problem. the president is the driver in shea. stuart: i'm sorry. i hate to be like this. i'm being obnoxious i know it, but he would vote no . i will not vote for higher tax rates, even if you knew for absolute certainty that pushes aside with a cleft. >> yes. i would vote no for higher tax rates because our children and grandchildren deserve better. stuart: they agree. >> this is a generational issue. stuart: still obnoxious. we use in any way compromise? for example, would you vote yes on the tax rate increase to 37% on upper income murders to wrap up 39, 37. would you vote yes on that? >> that is not something on the table. we haven't seen is a willingness to address spending, and you have to be able to cut spending. you have to be able to reform the way these entitlement pro
yes, i raise tax rates on the rich or no will not. >> you don't raise tax rates which. stuart: you would love no. and started to push like this. you wouldn't know. >> in not addressing the problem stuart: even though it wishes us over the cliff. >> i would vote no because it does not address the problem. the president is the driver in shea. stuart: i'm sorry. i hate to be like this. i'm being obnoxious i know it, but he would vote no . i will not vote for higher tax rates,...
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our tax revenues are down. historically they have been about 18 to 19% of the gross domestic product. part of that is the recession, but significant loss of revenue is because of the bush tax policies, and it was based on this idealogical fiction if you lower taxes it will increase revenues. and their focus was lowering taxes at the high end. we had higher tax rates under clinton, and we created 40 million jobs and had a surplus. then the bush folks came in put the war on the credit card prescription drugs on the credit card, and lowered taxes at the high end, and we had only 700,000 jobs, and had astonishing deficits since then. >> stephanie: the same l.a. times piece even makes that case with the war in afghanistan winding down, the military is asking for less than congress wants to give. so i think there has been so much hysteria over this fiscal cliff that i'm not sure it's warranted. >> that's exactly right. and also the ryan budget you know, their doctrine -- and it really is doctrining. lower taxes for t
our tax revenues are down. historically they have been about 18 to 19% of the gross domestic product. part of that is the recession, but significant loss of revenue is because of the bush tax policies, and it was based on this idealogical fiction if you lower taxes it will increase revenues. and their focus was lowering taxes at the high end. we had higher tax rates under clinton, and we created 40 million jobs and had a surplus. then the bush folks came in put the war on the credit card...
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still no face-to-face talks on that "fiscal cliff." >> there will be no deal without a compromise on taxes. >> state lawmakers fixing their cars on your dime. >> as a taxpayer, you know, it's my money going to it so it's certainly frustrating. >> oakland police fend off the feds. >> most importantly, what they avoid is a complete federal takeover something that would be an embarrassment for the city. >> i have documentation that proves the intense corruption at all levels of the belizian government. >> busted and heading back to belize. silicon valley tycoon john mcafee is now under arrest. >> the dungeness crab season just got started and already, the boats are idle. >> from across the bay -- >> it's just imagine cal for me. >> -- to around the world, the stories that matter on "eyewitness news this morning." >> your realtime captioner: linda marie macdonald captions by: caption colorado comments@captioncolorado.com >>> good morning, it's thursday, december 6. i'm michelle griego. >> hi, everyone. i'm frank mallicoat. it is 6:30 on this thursday. >>> a broken hydrant left a wet mess in do
still no face-to-face talks on that "fiscal cliff." >> there will be no deal without a compromise on taxes. >> state lawmakers fixing their cars on your dime. >> as a taxpayer, you know, it's my money going to it so it's certainly frustrating. >> oakland police fend off the feds. >> most importantly, what they avoid is a complete federal takeover something that would be an embarrassment for the city. >> i have documentation that proves the intense...
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republican said he is willing to break ranges with his party and -- ranks with his party and he could raise tax rates for upper income americans as part of a comprehensive plan to cut the federal deficit. they say they are looking for a way to save faces a they give in. >>> and they are looking for billions of dollars in cuts as they prepare to go over that fiscal cliff. hundreds of thousands of the jobs all over california could be affected, allison? >> 135 government workers in california could lose their jobs if there is no deal on those spending cuts that kick in at the end of the month. they say not only to plan for the cuts but that has changed. they are preparing to slice about 10% of their budget. experts are looking at 135 defense employees could lose their jobs but experts say there is still time to reach a deal and avoid those major lawsuits. >> nobody wants to reach a deal more than i. i will be ready to sit down with the president and solve this. >> reporter: they could be hit the hardest and i will have more about it during my next update on ktvu channel 2 morning news. >>> they a
republican said he is willing to break ranges with his party and -- ranks with his party and he could raise tax rates for upper income americans as part of a comprehensive plan to cut the federal deficit. they say they are looking for a way to save faces a they give in. >>> and they are looking for billions of dollars in cuts as they prepare to go over that fiscal cliff. hundreds of thousands of the jobs all over california could be affected, allison? >> 135 government workers in...
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the risk is if we do go over the cliff, allow taxes -- that means taxes on every american will go up. every taxpayer will go up first of the year. not just on the top 2%. and somebody's going to get the blame for that. we're counting on the republicans -- americans knowing that republicans are to blame. is that the case? do you agree. 1-866-55-press. is that what the president ought to do. 1-866-55-press. one thing you ought to -- before we get back to your calls urge you to consider, particularly if you are one of those families struggling to make ends meet at the end of every month and who's not, take a look at incomeathome.com. no obligation. just check it out. they're america's leading work from home business and they're offering you an opportunity you can do. in matter your age education or experience, you can literally earn money on your own laptop from your own kitchen table 24/67. it is at least worth checking out. if you're sick of living paycheck to paycheck, worried about job security or retirement if your goal is to.earn extra money part-time or full time, they're adding m
the risk is if we do go over the cliff, allow taxes -- that means taxes on every american will go up. every taxpayer will go up first of the year. not just on the top 2%. and somebody's going to get the blame for that. we're counting on the republicans -- americans knowing that republicans are to blame. is that the case? do you agree. 1-866-55-press. is that what the president ought to do. 1-866-55-press. one thing you ought to -- before we get back to your calls urge you to consider,...
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tax the rich. tax the rich. we tax the rich. everything will be fine. if we don't tax the ruch, locusts will descend from the heavens. that's all they do. that's all they've been doing for ten years. after 9/11 we should have had sacrific sacrifice, but bush cut taxes on the rich. everything is about bush tax cuts. >> my favorite montage that we put together one time was during both the '04 presidential democratic primaries and the '08 democratic primaries, every single presidential candidate, at one point, from hillary clinton to barack obama, from john kerry to john edwards, all of them, they all played for their plan with this simple phrase, "rolling back the bush tax cuts." they've been doing it for eight years. so politically, that's why the president has to draw that line in the sand. >> he draws that line in the sand, but harold ford, what happens when republicans, at least a small number of them, go ahead and raise taxes on the top 2% and then turn to the white house and say, okay. now we'll move. and then they have to talk about how they're goi
tax the rich. tax the rich. we tax the rich. everything will be fine. if we don't tax the ruch, locusts will descend from the heavens. that's all they do. that's all they've been doing for ten years. after 9/11 we should have had sacrific sacrifice, but bush cut taxes on the rich. everything is about bush tax cuts. >> my favorite montage that we put together one time was during both the '04 presidential democratic primaries and the '08 democratic primaries, every single presidential...
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president obama called the house speaker to discuss ways to prevent huge tax increases and spending cuts in january. congress' joint economic committee will hold talks today. >> propofol hockey is returning to the verizon center for one night. tonight the admirals' of norfolk will play. -- professional hockey is returning. there are signs the ice could be thawing between players and owners. both sides sound optimistic the season can be salvaged. talks will continue today. the work stoppage has wiped out all games through december 14 as well as the new year's day winter classic and the all-star game. >> same-sex marriage licenses will be issued starting today and several maryland counties. couple will be able to get married starting on january 1. some counties that have confirmed they will begin issuing licenses today include anne arundel frederick, and montgomery. maryland maine, and washington became the first states to pass a same-sex marriage by popular vote. washington state same-sex marriage law takes effect today. the governor signed the law during a ceremony at the state capital.
president obama called the house speaker to discuss ways to prevent huge tax increases and spending cuts in january. congress' joint economic committee will hold talks today. >> propofol hockey is returning to the verizon center for one night. tonight the admirals' of norfolk will play. -- professional hockey is returning. there are signs the ice could be thawing between players and owners. both sides sound optimistic the season can be salvaged. talks will continue today. the work...
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through the way that they would like to see taxes go up, even though they don't want to see taxes go up, through closing loopholes and eliminating deductions. john boehner acknowledges that revenue is going to be part of this deal, but they are standing firm on, they will not agree to at this point to raising tax rates on anyone. so either way, the major issue remains. the major issue, the major hurdle remains the tax rate issue. >> right, right. and meantime it's ticktock, right? and the house is out as of yesterday. members are headed to their home states for a nice long weekend with no deal in sight. the majority leader, eric cantor, says he's going to force congress to keep coming back and stay in session until a deal is done. seriously? >> he is serious. but, i mean, it was a pretty short workweek for the members of the house, that's for sure, as they left, not only left yesterday, they left at noon yesterday, after votes. the fact of the matter is that this has happened before. that they will be out on recess, they will be back in their home districts and the leadership will ca
through the way that they would like to see taxes go up, even though they don't want to see taxes go up, through closing loopholes and eliminating deductions. john boehner acknowledges that revenue is going to be part of this deal, but they are standing firm on, they will not agree to at this point to raising tax rates on anyone. so either way, the major issue remains. the major issue, the major hurdle remains the tax rate issue. >> right, right. and meantime it's ticktock, right? and the...
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finding brown's approval rating at 48% following the passage of the prop 30 tax hike. in october, his rating was 42%. early last year, it reached a low of 34%. as for the state budget, the ppic poll finds 94% of californians consider it a problem. of that number, 68% say it's a big problem. 26% say it's somewhat of a problem. coming up in four minutes, a report of lawmakers purchasing cars after having them fixed up with your tax dollars. >>> there's been a lot of tough talk from the white house today about the fiscal cliff. treasury secretary, tim geithner said the administration is quote, absolutely ready to let the economy go over that cliff, rather than drop the higher tax rates for top earners. president obama also told a group of ceos, he won't republicans inject the threat of a government default into the current negotiations. >> that is a bad strategy for america. it is a bad strategy for your businesses, and it is not a game that i will play. >> in spite of the rhetoric, president obama and house speaker john boehner did speak by phone today for the first time
finding brown's approval rating at 48% following the passage of the prop 30 tax hike. in october, his rating was 42%. early last year, it reached a low of 34%. as for the state budget, the ppic poll finds 94% of californians consider it a problem. of that number, 68% say it's a big problem. 26% say it's somewhat of a problem. coming up in four minutes, a report of lawmakers purchasing cars after having them fixed up with your tax dollars. >>> there's been a lot of tough talk from the...
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john maynard discuss and the fiscal cliff and president barack obama suppresses his case today for a tax hike to help reduce the deficit. we are not insisting on rates just out of spite or any kind of partisan victory but rather because we need to raise a certain amount of revenue. >> and he made that pitch to several wealthy ceos he wants to raise taxes on the top 2 percent of income earners and he believes this will help raise the government's 16 trillion dollar debt coupled with spending cuts but the republican controlled house says the president has not responded to their latest proposal. >> i think we made a good-faith offer to avert the fiscal crisis and that offer included significant spending cuts and reforms and it included additional revenue and frankly it was the balanced approach mr. president has been asking for. erick kanter announced today there will be no adjournment into a credible solution to the fiscal cliff is found. >> house lawmakers proposed a bill today they claim will bring the costs under control and provide a safe retirement, it creates two groups of public emp
john maynard discuss and the fiscal cliff and president barack obama suppresses his case today for a tax hike to help reduce the deficit. we are not insisting on rates just out of spite or any kind of partisan victory but rather because we need to raise a certain amount of revenue. >> and he made that pitch to several wealthy ceos he wants to raise taxes on the top 2 percent of income earners and he believes this will help raise the government's 16 trillion dollar debt coupled with...
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. >> president obama has made a r that there will be no deal tax hikeis no higher on the wealthiest 2% of americans. republicans are gathering to afters their next that the president shot down their proposal. our senior clinical reporter, scott thuman, has been following the story. our senior political reporter, scott thuman, has been following the story. he will have more at 6:00. doug hill has more on the weather. this may be a visit from old for a few days. let's get you started. 82 degrees right now. the d two degrees up road at the 52 degrees up the road at washington-lee high school. temperatures falling into the 50's.nd if h still hang onto 60 degrees in fredericksburg. temperatures running colder. 21 degrees colder in cumberland. these are the wind speed at the top of the hour. 10, 12, and 15 miles per hour. winds will diminish later . temperatures will drop .uickly into the 40's tomorrow we will be in the 30's.20's and how long will the cold air stay around? warmer temperatures are coming .ack will show you that in a couple of minutes. police are looking for the driver behind
. >> president obama has made a r that there will be no deal tax hikeis no higher on the wealthiest 2% of americans. republicans are gathering to afters their next that the president shot down their proposal. our senior clinical reporter, scott thuman, has been following the story. our senior political reporter, scott thuman, has been following the story. he will have more at 6:00. doug hill has more on the weather. this may be a visit from old for a few days. let's get you started. 82...
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i think the market has digested a bit that tax rates will go up. it's just a matter of how much spending are we going to cut to make this a market between the democrats and republicans. >> does monetary policy hurt or help the banks? keeping rates as low as they are, it's tough to make a buck the traditional way of lending and spending, right? >> i'm going to be a two-armed economist because i can't said on the other hand. there's two things that are very important. first of all, credit in commercial real estate is phenomenal. cap rates are really low. so the fact that rates are as low as they are has allowed commercial real estate not to fall into the abyss. if commercial real estate had to refi at high rates, we would have had another problem. the other problem is the fact margins are getting squeezed at these banks. credit quality is better. >> that's where the money comes from. >> yeah, fees. by the way, you can eat these loan loss reserves. citi still has close to $10 billion in reserves. they've not used them. >> that's interesting. >> these
i think the market has digested a bit that tax rates will go up. it's just a matter of how much spending are we going to cut to make this a market between the democrats and republicans. >> does monetary policy hurt or help the banks? keeping rates as low as they are, it's tough to make a buck the traditional way of lending and spending, right? >> i'm going to be a two-armed economist because i can't said on the other hand. there's two things that are very important. first of all,...
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the wealthy, higher taxes for the wealthy. that of course a major sticking point in the negotiations. that moved the dow up earlier but we don't have anything specific right now. these are all still rumors. apple, just a lot of things going on today. i believe there was an at&t investor conference where one of the executives at at&t gave sales figures for the smartphone sales for the first two months of the quarter saying sales would be flat implying they'd be flat from the same period last year. smartphones, which include overall smartphone sales like samsung and iphone sales. but i think some were a little disappointed to hear that, were hopeful it might be stronger. there are also concerns the ipad share of the tablet market might be slipping. and of course some firms raising margin requirements as well. >>> the leadership group here, our banks, a lot of analysts got what they wanted, citigroup cutting jobs, 11,000 jobs. cutting expenses. what a sad reason for the market and financials to be up today on that kind of headlin
the wealthy, higher taxes for the wealthy. that of course a major sticking point in the negotiations. that moved the dow up earlier but we don't have anything specific right now. these are all still rumors. apple, just a lot of things going on today. i believe there was an at&t investor conference where one of the executives at at&t gave sales figures for the smartphone sales for the first two months of the quarter saying sales would be flat implying they'd be flat from the same period...
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give 98% of us tax relief. the things that both sides agree on and then the president yesterday thinks the president is poised to take off. obviously going over the cliff is the last thing anybody wants right now. >> i agree. i hear people on both sides talk about that. it may have been a contrived cliff. i know some folks call it a curve or whatever they want to call it. the fact of the matter is a large portion of any economy is the psychological effect of it. and you can't tell me that middle class -- i'm a teacher my wife and i -- that they're thinking about what happens if that tax bill changes on january 1st and they're making decisions about their spending right now. that's reality. the one thing i agree with republicans on in the 2010 elections was that the economy needed certainty. the thing that frustrates me is it is creating more uncertainty by them not signing on to this and passing it. >> stephanie: absolutely. what i was saying last hour, representative, the thing we're not falling for is some of
give 98% of us tax relief. the things that both sides agree on and then the president yesterday thinks the president is poised to take off. obviously going over the cliff is the last thing anybody wants right now. >> i agree. i hear people on both sides talk about that. it may have been a contrived cliff. i know some folks call it a curve or whatever they want to call it. the fact of the matter is a large portion of any economy is the psychological effect of it. and you can't tell me that...
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we don't have any objection to tax reform, tax simplification. closing loopholes, closing deductions, but there is a bottom line, an amount of revenue that is required in order for us to get a real, meaningful deficit reduction plan that hits the numbers that are required for us to stabilize our debt and deficits. and -- [. [no audio] kwroe. jenna: we gave it our best shot. sometimes we can't do it. the president speaking at the white house at the business roundtable about the economy. fiscal cliff certainly the issue in the short term for a lot of big businesses and certainly for a lot of american taxpayers. however, long term is another story when it comes to the economy, and entitlements, the president referring to that as well. as we continue to get that feedback you can check it out foxnews.com, in the meantime we're going to move onto other news as well. >> reporter: and so let's begin with the violence that is appearing to really spiral out of control. secretary of state hillary clinton says she fears a desperate president bashar al-assad
we don't have any objection to tax reform, tax simplification. closing loopholes, closing deductions, but there is a bottom line, an amount of revenue that is required in order for us to get a real, meaningful deficit reduction plan that hits the numbers that are required for us to stabilize our debt and deficits. and -- [. [no audio] kwroe. jenna: we gave it our best shot. sometimes we can't do it. the president speaking at the white house at the business roundtable about the economy. fiscal...
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republicans are instead offering to close tax loopholes and limit tax deductions that favor the wealthy while extending current tax rates for the middle class. frustration is clearly growing on both sides. >> speaker's proposal right now is is still out of balance. >> we wasted an enormous amount of time here sparring back and forth in public. it strikes me as a good time to get serious about the proposals. >> reporter: a very big potential problem for speaker boehner even if he's willing to compromise with president obama, people within his own party are not are already saying they won't be willing to go along. i'll have more on that during my next update. reporting live from washington, d.c. alison burns ktvu channel 2 news. >>> controversial comedian katt williams says he's done. he's quitting stand up comedy after another run in with the law. >> i'm just going to go ahead and announce my retirement from stand up. i'm kind of done. >> katt williams made that announcement outside of a hotel sunday night after being kicked out of the hotel. on sunday he was taken to jail accused of fig
republicans are instead offering to close tax loopholes and limit tax deductions that favor the wealthy while extending current tax rates for the middle class. frustration is clearly growing on both sides. >> speaker's proposal right now is is still out of balance. >> we wasted an enormous amount of time here sparring back and forth in public. it strikes me as a good time to get serious about the proposals. >> reporter: a very big potential problem for speaker boehner even if...
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not the tax rates. cut the spending, not the -- >> gretchen: it's kind of like that duh sound on the simpson show. people know this. people know this is what it's going to come down to yet it's this posturing. now headlines, chaos in cairo. president morsi returning to his palace overnight. he took off amid violent protests between police and protests, 100,000. they're outraged over morsi expanding his powers. hello, you elected him -- but the muslim brotherhood calling for its own protests over alleged abuses by the opposition. several tv stations in egypt going back to protest the constitution drafted by islamists. >>> new chilling surveillance video showing the moment when a barista came face-to-face with her killer. you can see 18-year-old samantha make the coffee and then raise her hands as if she's being held up. he makes her turn off the lights and climb through a window before tying her hands behind her back, chilling. the f.b.i. says he then sexually assaulted and he killed her. he's confessed
not the tax rates. cut the spending, not the -- >> gretchen: it's kind of like that duh sound on the simpson show. people know this. people know this is what it's going to come down to yet it's this posturing. now headlines, chaos in cairo. president morsi returning to his palace overnight. he took off amid violent protests between police and protests, 100,000. they're outraged over morsi expanding his powers. hello, you elected him -- but the muslim brotherhood calling for its own...
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a former prosecutor weighs in next. >> could your tax dollars has tax companies expanding. there's one problem. it's in china. >> welcome back. it is 20 minutes after the top of the hour. solar companies are expanding in china. they made 807 million in tax payer dollars. it is supplying two mega cawatt of panels in person china. sun power received nearly $540 million. 15 million in a chinese mproduc. kept a log of your private text messages. it could happen if police want their way. they passed a law requiring all carriers to keep your conversation for at least two years. patti ann? >> heather, a virginia auto zone is under fire after firing an employee who saved the store manager's life. a serial robber held a manager at gun point. he ran to his car and grabbed his legal gun ran back in and confronted the suspect. the would be robber fled. instead of being hailed as a hero he was fired for violating auto zone policy. >> they fired me because i re-entered the store with my personal weapon. they have a zero tolerance policy against employees having weapons in the store. >> s
a former prosecutor weighs in next. >> could your tax dollars has tax companies expanding. there's one problem. it's in china. >> welcome back. it is 20 minutes after the top of the hour. solar companies are expanding in china. they made 807 million in tax payer dollars. it is supplying two mega cawatt of panels in person china. sun power received nearly $540 million. 15 million in a chinese mproduc. kept a log of your private text messages. it could happen if police want their way....
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cut shouldn't have their taxes raised. my suggestion was let's take the one area we agree and take it off the table. >> but zoraida, as you saw there from the president earlier in that bloomberg interview, he is digging in, saying there can't be a deal unless upper income americans pay more. middle-class americans should get the bush era tax cut extension. is he not backing down from that at all. the president saying in that interview that he's not being stubborn. he's not being partisan but rather that it's, quote, a matter of math. >> we've been talking now for a while that americans blame republicans if a deal doesn't go through. new polling shows americans are pessimistic a deal will be reached at all. break down those numbers for us. >> the tune that we're seeing now from not only the white house but also members up on capitol hill where they once were very optimistic that a deal would get done, there's more pessimistic about a deal getting done. so this is reflected in that poll when people were asked whether or not
cut shouldn't have their taxes raised. my suggestion was let's take the one area we agree and take it off the table. >> but zoraida, as you saw there from the president earlier in that bloomberg interview, he is digging in, saying there can't be a deal unless upper income americans pay more. middle-class americans should get the bush era tax cut extension. is he not backing down from that at all. the president saying in that interview that he's not being stubborn. he's not being partisan...
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make sure you talk to the tax attorney before you do so, so you don't get in trouble down the road. >> bob: good. greg, i am sure you have given out money. >> dana: is there something i'm missing? >> greg: no. miss manners is a 55-year-old fat guy named vick. if you loan money, do it exchange for services. i mean to my mother recently and she spends most of her time in my garage polishing the unicorns. she is there seven to eight hours a day in the garage. she enjoys it in the long run. hard soccer good. >> andrea: she must have borrowed a lot. expensive job. >> greg: it keeps her eating. >> bob: vu you deep pockets. you give money to relatives? >> andrea: says who? not as deep as you. the problem with the letter, the woman asked if she should offer to help in money is like matters of the heart. unless somebody asks, you don't offer to get involved in their problems because they might not necessarily want your help or they might not want you knowing. do you let your family and friends knowing you are having money problems? if you do, maybe it's good thing. they say don't come to vacat
make sure you talk to the tax attorney before you do so, so you don't get in trouble down the road. >> bob: good. greg, i am sure you have given out money. >> dana: is there something i'm missing? >> greg: no. miss manners is a 55-year-old fat guy named vick. if you loan money, do it exchange for services. i mean to my mother recently and she spends most of her time in my garage polishing the unicorns. she is there seven to eight hours a day in the garage. she enjoys it in the...
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it would extend the bush tax cut for the middle class but raise taxes on incomes over $250,000 a year. republican senator jim demint calls the idea quote, outlandish. >> republicans should not be conceding that the federal government needs more money negotiating with ourselves and teating the president's proposal like it's serious. >> republican house speaker john boehner has come out against any tax hike and has refused to bring the democratic plan for a vote. >>> the dow fell almost 14 points. nasdaq lost 5 1/2. the s & p fell 2 1/2 points. >>> yahoo is buying another silicon startup. sunnyvale's yahoo acquired on the air today. the service enables users to hold online video chats in a talk show foremated. >>> a monstrous typhoon has killed 74 people in the philippines and the deattoll is expected to rise. 23 of the people drowned in flooding caused by the typhoon. the storm made landfall yesterday and some 60,000 people have fled to emergency shelters. the crowded shelters in this new video. the typhoon is expected to continue to dump rain for several days. >>> a major pot growing
it would extend the bush tax cut for the middle class but raise taxes on incomes over $250,000 a year. republican senator jim demint calls the idea quote, outlandish. >> republicans should not be conceding that the federal government needs more money negotiating with ourselves and teating the president's proposal like it's serious. >> republican house speaker john boehner has come out against any tax hike and has refused to bring the democratic plan for a vote. >>> the dow...
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some of them might struggle with voting to raise taxes by more than $12.5 trillion. this is amateur video from syria purporting the show a government war plane on a bombing run in damascus. one of syria's neighbors get serious about self-defense. concerns about the chemical weapons on the rise. "special report" starts at #:00 eastern. now have back to my colleagues with "the five." >> five, four, three, two, one. [ applause ] >> good job! >> andrea: the lighting of the 73-foot tall capitol christmas tree. that was john boehner who lit the tree. on the west front steps of the cocapitol. where president obama will have inauguration in a couple of weeks. from the speaker bearing brooks brother to devil wears prada. anna winter raised money to get president obama re-elect and it could be paying off for her now. bloomberg news is reporting that she is on the short list to be the next ambassador to the u.k. or to france. a hat tip to the "new york post," owned by the parent company of the network. she was trying to audition by fundraisers and glossy spreads in the magazine
some of them might struggle with voting to raise taxes by more than $12.5 trillion. this is amateur video from syria purporting the show a government war plane on a bombing run in damascus. one of syria's neighbors get serious about self-defense. concerns about the chemical weapons on the rise. "special report" starts at #:00 eastern. now have back to my colleagues with "the five." >> five, four, three, two, one. [ applause ] >> good job! >> andrea: the...
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no, it's worse -- look, our taxes are about to go up. not the taxes on our dividends though, right? that's a big part of our retirement. oh, no, it's dividends, too. the rate on our dividends would more than double. but we depend on our dividends to help pay our bills. we worked hard to save. well, the president and congress have got to work together to stop this dividend tax hike. before it's too late. pretty sweet, huh? cute. but don't you have any apps on your phone that can make your life easier? who do you think i am, quicken loans? at quicken loans, we'll provide you with myql mobile. this amazingly useful app allows you to take pictures of your mortgage documents using an iphone or android smart phone... so you can easily send them to us. one more way quicken loans is engineered to amaze. ooh, la-la! there's a health company that can help you stay that way. what's healthier than that? >>> the fiscal cliff looms at the end of the month. president obama standing firm in this interview he did today with bloomberg tv. >> we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up. a
no, it's worse -- look, our taxes are about to go up. not the taxes on our dividends though, right? that's a big part of our retirement. oh, no, it's dividends, too. the rate on our dividends would more than double. but we depend on our dividends to help pay our bills. we worked hard to save. well, the president and congress have got to work together to stop this dividend tax hike. before it's too late. pretty sweet, huh? cute. but don't you have any apps on your phone that can make your life...
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and jake carney saying unless the republicans give in on tax rates and raise the bush tax rates on the rich, there is no deal and the president is willing to go off the cliff. they hammered speaker boehner's proposal. >> we don't know who pays. we don't know what we are talking about in terms actual legislation to increase revenues it is magic beans and fairy dust. >>reporter: it doesn't sound like they are ready for a compromise. he said they do not take speaker boehner's proposal seriously enough to offer a counterpropsal so the white house believes the ball is still in the republicans' court. >>shepard: but speaker boehner has moved, if shiply and if for the first time in public but he has moved. >>reporter: he has. he is not willing yet, not yet, anyway, willing to raise tax rates. in speaker boehner's proposal he put revenue, tax revenue of $800 billion on the table. you her the white house said this was not enough detail but they say in the republican side it would be from limiting deductions and republican leader said this. >> republicans have move add great deal. who was the fi
and jake carney saying unless the republicans give in on tax rates and raise the bush tax rates on the rich, there is no deal and the president is willing to go off the cliff. they hammered speaker boehner's proposal. >> we don't know who pays. we don't know what we are talking about in terms actual legislation to increase revenues it is magic beans and fairy dust. >>reporter: it doesn't sound like they are ready for a compromise. he said they do not take speaker boehner's proposal...
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but it has no tax increases. it raises revenue through closing tax loopholes and deductions. if the white house immediately rejected the republican proposal. the president saying he would not accept any proposal without a tax increase for wealthy americans. >> u.s. official said the white house and its allies are weighing military options to secure serious chemical and biological weapons. the cult-that this comes after u.s. intelligence reports show the syrian regime may be readying those weapons and may be desperate enough to use them. president barack obamas told an audience at the national the fifth anniversary monday the u.suse of chemical weapons is and what it be totally unacceptable. we will take a look at whether we are back following the latest from our around the world some of the video coming in a protest in egypt continued to roll into a nose runs around the world. several influential egyptian newspapers and suspended publication to protest what many journalists see as restrictions on freedom of expression in a draft constitution adopted by islamic led panel. toda
but it has no tax increases. it raises revenue through closing tax loopholes and deductions. if the white house immediately rejected the republican proposal. the president saying he would not accept any proposal without a tax increase for wealthy americans. >> u.s. official said the white house and its allies are weighing military options to secure serious chemical and biological weapons. the cult-that this comes after u.s. intelligence reports show the syrian regime may be readying those...
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just 28 days until everyone's taxes are set to go up. house republicans have now sent the white house their own plan for getting america's finances under control. but both sides still far apart. abc's jake tapper is covering this from the white house. jake, the white house downplayed this new offer but will it be enough to jump-start negotiations? >> reporter: i don't think so, george. the white house advisers describe the proposal that republicans offered yesterday, as a step backward in terms of negotiations. what the outlying house republican states is $2.2 trillion in deficit reduction. that includes 1.2 trillion in spending cuts. $800 billion in new revenue. optimistic projections. and $200 billion in other measures, such as adjusting the consumer price index. but house republicans say if the president doesn't like this, it's incumbent upon him to offer a plan that can make it through the house and the senate. >> the white house says they want to see the republicans first say that tax rates are going to go up. is there any prospect
just 28 days until everyone's taxes are set to go up. house republicans have now sent the white house their own plan for getting america's finances under control. but both sides still far apart. abc's jake tapper is covering this from the white house. jake, the white house downplayed this new offer but will it be enough to jump-start negotiations? >> reporter: i don't think so, george. the white house advisers describe the proposal that republicans offered yesterday, as a step backward in...
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. >> reporter: house republicans want big spending cuts but no tax rate increases. here is a picture of president barack obama answering questions on twitter about the fiscal cliff. he is promoting a reference to the estimated tax increase and middle income families would see if rates are not extended, the latest would extend tax cuts for everyone including americans and who the president wants to exclude. the white house says the proposal is too short on specifics. >> we can't guess what they are, they need to tell us and they look forward to the time when they are specific with the ways we have dealt with it. >> they don't like what republicans want to do to social security and more on that during my next update. reporting live, allison burns, ktvu channel 2 morning news. >>> 5:14 in florida, they have released a photo of george zimmerman, showing george zimmerman with a swollen nose and blood did i face. they responded and said it adds nothing new to the case. the volunteer watch man is charged with second-degree murder and his trial is due to begin next june. >>
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oracle is among the latest corporations trying to beat the clock on next year's expected tax increase. oracle's board has approved accelerated dividend payments for the second, third and 4th quarters of next year. nhl owners and players plan to meet today in a renewed effort to move the puck on labor talks. let's see what's going on with the market today with matt shapiro, president of mws capital. good morning to you. > > good morning angie. > this is certainly one moody market. it seems to move on every word that comes out of washington. > > absolutely. actually, i am surprised, given the stalemate that we had this weekend and the gop yesterday having a counter offer - they are miles apart, but the market really held in there, and i think, at this point, the market is just basically pricing in that nothing really good is going to happen in washington, at least for now. > what about manufacturing matt? the numbers came in solid for china, not so good for the u.s. there was a bit of a slip. > > i think some of that is the concern. but at least the silver lining is positive for china.
oracle is among the latest corporations trying to beat the clock on next year's expected tax increase. oracle's board has approved accelerated dividend payments for the second, third and 4th quarters of next year. nhl owners and players plan to meet today in a renewed effort to move the puck on labor talks. let's see what's going on with the market today with matt shapiro, president of mws capital. good morning to you. > > good morning angie. > this is certainly one moody market. it...
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from this complicated tax or these high taxes. it works. >> becky, if it was your commission, simpson/bowles -- >> 11 of the 18 members. >> and we got to handle the fiscal cliff but knowing it goes to 28%, wouldn't you be using this opportunity right now to try and bridge a way to get eventually to simpson/bowles? >> the president was behind simpson/bowles from the beginning. >> because of the 28% and the entitlement cuts. if you were on this commission, you would say the fiscal cliff is much more important, let's figure out a way to handle it but with the end in sight of simpson/bowles. we all know we need to get there. instead of this obsession with the top 2% and 39.6, wouldn't you be spending is your leadership capital trying to get to a simpson/bowles. >> that's the most loaded question you could have possibly asked. >> am i wrong? >> no, i agree with that, i agree with simpson/bowles. >> no one's listening at the white house so i can say whatever i want. >> when we've asked republican leaders they've not embraced simpson/bow
from this complicated tax or these high taxes. it works. >> becky, if it was your commission, simpson/bowles -- >> 11 of the 18 members. >> and we got to handle the fiscal cliff but knowing it goes to 28%, wouldn't you be using this opportunity right now to try and bridge a way to get eventually to simpson/bowles? >> the president was behind simpson/bowles from the beginning. >> because of the 28% and the entitlement cuts. if you were on this commission, you would...
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they will not raise tax rates. they will not raise taxes on the top wealthiest 2% of americans. they say no way. no how will that be included. they're dead wrong. they're wasting time. when i saw that proposal yesterday, to coin a word, you know what my reaction was? i was flabbergasted! oh, my god. i was flabbergasted. >> thank you mr. speaker. >> bill: john boehner isn't the only one. flabbergasted that they would have the audacity to put something like that forward when they know it's not going anywhere. it's a total joke. social security has not contributed to the deficit. social security should not be on the table. these guys hate social security so much, they want to get rid of social security and medicare so much that everything they put forward has to have cuts in medicare and social security. so that's a nonstarter. the president has said he's not going to touch social security. the president said he's not going to raise the eligibility age for medicare. and the president has also said jay carney said it again yesterday, he's not even going to consider any bill that con
they will not raise tax rates. they will not raise taxes on the top wealthiest 2% of americans. they say no way. no how will that be included. they're dead wrong. they're wasting time. when i saw that proposal yesterday, to coin a word, you know what my reaction was? i was flabbergasted! oh, my god. i was flabbergasted. >> thank you mr. speaker. >> bill: john boehner isn't the only one. flabbergasted that they would have the audacity to put something like that forward when they know...
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they're charged with tax evasion. they deny any wrongdoing. >>> finally, it may be the only time you smile about a story on the fiscal cliff. you need to check out this youtube video of a little boy glued to the animation used by our friends at cnbc. [ laughing ] >> that's the great thing about kids. you can leave him there for 15 minutes. he'd be all set. >>> one of the coolest down hill skating races you'll see this year. plus, bofrming legend mohammed ali receives the biggest award in boxing history. that's next. [ male announcer ] this december, remember -- ♪ you can stay in and like something... ♪ [ car alarm deactivates ] ♪ ...or you can get out there with your family and actually like something. ♪ the lexus december to remember sales event is on, offering some of our best values of the year. this is the pursuit of perfection. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically
they're charged with tax evasion. they deny any wrongdoing. >>> finally, it may be the only time you smile about a story on the fiscal cliff. you need to check out this youtube video of a little boy glued to the animation used by our friends at cnbc. [ laughing ] >> that's the great thing about kids. you can leave him there for 15 minutes. he'd be all set. >>> one of the coolest down hill skating races you'll see this year. plus, bofrming legend mohammed ali receives the...
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this is the tax revenue, this would be the new taxes. this would be done by closing loopholes, limiting deductions, not, obviously, by increasing income tax rates for the wealthy. $600 billion in health savings. that's the entitlement reform. that's medicare cuts. cuts to other entitlements. compare this to the white house, $1.6 trillion in new taxes, so that's two times the amount in speaker boehner's counteroffer. and $400 billion in cuts to medicare and entitlements. so that's $200 billion less than speaker boehner's. also something in here that the white house has proposed as a nonstarter for house republicans was having congress give up their debt limit vote. the white house is call being speaker boehner's counteroffer not serious. they're saying there needs to be specifics. but i will tell you that democratic leadership made in a moment of i guess you could say truth, that it does pass the last test. obviously democrats don't like it but it certainly could have more things in it that they don't like. so maybe it's not, as far as a
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the white house demanding higher tax rates for the top two tax brackets, and the republicans refusing. after rejecting the obama administration proposal last week, house republicans offered an outline for $2.2 trillion in deficit reduction, mostly through spending cuts. and while president obama would not answer questions about the counterproposal -- >> no deal better than a bad deal, sir? >> reporter: -- a senior white house official assailed it as a step backward, saying if republicans do not agree to some higher rates for wealthier taxpayer, the nation will go over the cliff, and the american people will hold the republicans responsible. wall street remains optimistic a deal will be struck. so the lack of progress is not yet resulted in a market plunge. but some economists estimate that because of the uncertainty posed by the fiscal cliff, at least 200,000 fewer jobs have been created this year. the official deadline is december 31st at midnight when the ball drops in times square. the deadline is before that, a week from friday when the house of representatives is scheduled to go
the white house demanding higher tax rates for the top two tax brackets, and the republicans refusing. after rejecting the obama administration proposal last week, house republicans offered an outline for $2.2 trillion in deficit reduction, mostly through spending cuts. and while president obama would not answer questions about the counterproposal -- >> no deal better than a bad deal, sir? >> reporter: -- a senior white house official assailed it as a step backward, saying if...
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you can rest assured that they're going to be tax increases, tax-rate increases for the top 2%. you're probably going to see more in the form of health care entitlement cuts. >> ifill: you're thinking, however, that whatever compromise they come up with will be some distance from what you proposed more than a year ago? >> actually, it was more than a year ago. it was more than two years ago. times change. elections happen. there are consequences to those elections. yes, i think you'll see a different product come out. but i think the key is you're going to see a balanced approach with both revenue and spending cuts. you're going to see at least $4 trillion because that is the minimum amount you have to reduce the deficit in order to stabilize the debt and get it on a downward path as a percent of g.d.p. >> ifill: you said a moment ago that this is theater. these are both like opening bids that either side is going to reject. how do we get past that? how do they get past that if, in fact, the catastrophe everyone is warning about is to be avoided. >> if they got to agreement the
you can rest assured that they're going to be tax increases, tax-rate increases for the top 2%. you're probably going to see more in the form of health care entitlement cuts. >> ifill: you're thinking, however, that whatever compromise they come up with will be some distance from what you proposed more than a year ago? >> actually, it was more than a year ago. it was more than two years ago. times change. elections happen. there are consequences to those elections. yes, i think...
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no, it's worse -- look, our taxes are about to go up. not the taxes on our dividends though, right? that's a big part of our retirement. oh, no, it's dividends, too. the rate on our dividends would more than double. but we depend on our dividends to help pay our bills. we worked hard to save. well, the president and congress have got to work together to stop this dividend tax hike. before it's too late. [ "the odd couple" theme playing ] humans. even when we cross our "t"s and dot our "i"s, we still run into problems -- mainly other humans. at liberty mutual insurance, we understand. that's why our auto policies come with accident forgiveness if you qualify, where your rates won't go up due to your first accident, and new car replacement, where if you total your new car, we give you the money for a new one. call... to talk to an insurance expert about everything else that comes standard with our base auto policy. [ tires squeal ] and if you get into an accident and use one of our certified repair shops, your repairs are guaranteed for life. call... to switch, and you could save hund
no, it's worse -- look, our taxes are about to go up. not the taxes on our dividends though, right? that's a big part of our retirement. oh, no, it's dividends, too. the rate on our dividends would more than double. but we depend on our dividends to help pay our bills. we worked hard to save. well, the president and congress have got to work together to stop this dividend tax hike. before it's too late. [ "the odd couple" theme playing ] humans. even when we cross our "t"s...
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taxes as ordinary individuals. am i right about that or wrong? >> yes and no. the point being if the fiscal cliff you look at china, eurozone, it is all coming together to create an environment of total uncertainty for a lot of the biggest investors in the world. pension funds in the u.s. are trying to manage the volatility of the funding levels, generating return. think of where the average u.s. pension fund is trying to again rate a return from 6.5% to 8%. >> it's not so much that they're concerned about a looming tax hike that might affect their portfolios as it is about the uncertainty that the cliff represents, that chinese economy represents, and that europe represents. >> totally. so they have two decisions. on the risk hedging they have to look where yield is going worldwide. that's the price of ensuring their liabilities. at the same time diversification is the other avenue, generating return. rather than awarding historically high allocations toward equities, move towards alternatives. >> not necessarily
taxes as ordinary individuals. am i right about that or wrong? >> yes and no. the point being if the fiscal cliff you look at china, eurozone, it is all coming together to create an environment of total uncertainty for a lot of the biggest investors in the world. pension funds in the u.s. are trying to manage the volatility of the funding levels, generating return. think of where the average u.s. pension fund is trying to again rate a return from 6.5% to 8%. >> it's not so much that...